What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Hmmm....well let's trying one hand clapping *gets right hand and waves it in air*
Sounds like the wind I create well I move my hand violently through air.
Ok next question.......lol. Just kidding

Yes so the little phrase is a koan, a zen saying, and koans are used to reach enlightenment. You are supposed to sit, and meditate on the saying and then enlightenment comes to you. Of course this method may take a longer time than others to achieve, but of course well worth it. =)

So what is the sound of one hand clapping?


mu

Enlightened

So now I'm going to keep track on how I progress with becoming enlightened. Hmmm....Maybe I should talk about Eastern religions and philosophies. Those are always interesting. It's always seemed to me that it has been easier for psions to connect w/ eastern philosophy more than anyone else other than martial artists (which i would consider psions anyway.).
I've set a goal for myself to everyday come write a post about some aspect of eastern philosophy and just talk about it. Maybe relate to psions or anyone else, but ya thats what I'll do. I have not come up with one for today, but give me about an hour and I will.

See ya

LIMITLESS PSIO SKILLS

One thing I find a very beneficial thing to learn is connection. What I mean is a connection with the world around you; all the living and non-living things. "Why would I bother doing that?" Well I'm glad you asked. Think of this as a hardcore empathy (if you don't know what that is, it is when you can feel what feelings others are feeling), but it's not just empathy. It's building a sort of relationship. The first most obvious advantage is of course telekinesis, but it's not just that. It should also be easier to do other psionic techniques (precognition, remote viewing, etc) because everything around you (depending on what feeling you give it) it'll trust you. This is very hard to explain since it's so abstract. If you don't necessarily believe me just take five or ten minutes out of your day to try it once. Just once.
Feel one with the world around you. Feel the energy, the life, the spirt. I know it sounds corny but if you begin to feel that, you will understand what I'm saying better.
EVERYTHING around you has psi energy and it's more like connecting with the psi energy and when you can "engulf" yourself in the energy and you begin to allow yourself to understand more what the world is all about. You begin to understand the true essence of the world and the deeper psi skills. If anything, it seems like I'm trying to help everyone to Nirvana or Heaven, but it's true. Become enlightened and your skills WILL BE LIMITLESS!!

Focus

I put this up on PsiPogBB.net

So I've come to the conclusion that one of the first skills you should learn before even attempting to do any psionic skill is focus. Yes I know you can learn focus and practice whatever skill you're working on, but it just seems it's better as a prequisite rather than a let's try some stuff and figure it out later.
I mean, it's just easier. learning to focus will help w/ so much more than psionic practice. It works for school, work, life in general. and when you learn to focus, you also learn your limitations and how slow you should progress in order to keep yourself healthly.
like I said you can learn it while practicing but I really think it's worth learning before that's all. it's taken me five years to come to this conclusion and i bet that if thats what I have started with in the beginning, I wouldn't have such a tough time with it now. granted I think I have some sort of ADD thing, but still. I wouldn't have to worry about staying focus now if iIhad only learned it before.
Different things work for different people, so I'm not trying to force or generalize this on anyone but if i had students i would definitely teach them this first.

Added protection

This is another idea I conjured up one night. Here's the forum convo off of PsiPogBB.net

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Me freakinrican626:I know this is kinda random and don't ask me how I even began to think of this, but could one build a shield to protect one from oneself? (ok lets get rid of the whole one deal.) What I mean is, can you make a shield to protect yourself from your own laziness or annoyiness or undiscipliness.
Do you get what I'm asking?

Lucidess:Maybe not a shield, try programming a ball of psi programmed to keep your head in some sort of concentration. A shield doesn't protect yourself from yourself XD a shield could also be called a "filter".

freakinrican626:Ok thanks for that. I don't know too much about psi balls, but I will.

neveza:That is a bit creepy to think off, It's almost forcing certain neuros to not go to it's destiny, yet, Emotions are from chemicals, bah...I thinking to far in this.

could work I suppose.

freakinrican626:

(quote) neveza wrote:

That is a bit creepy to think off, It's almost forcing certain neuros to not go to it's destiny, yet, Emotions are from chemicals, bah...I thinking to far in this. could work I suppose.

well do you think it might be a bad idea? well i mean when you talk about neuros not reaching their destinies, wouldn't that happen when you try to discipline yourself? That's just an example, but I mean, when you try to change your "personality" (used cause lack of a better term) isn't that what happens anyway?

Baka:Or you could end up messing up your brain completely and ending up with an IQ of 20. There's a reason why it's not reccomended to send psi to your head and major neural pathways.

freakinrican626:

(quote) Baka wrote:

Or you could end up messing up your brain completely and ending up with an IQ of 20. There's a reason why it's not reccomended to send psi to your head and major neural pathways.

hmmm. well i always thought that there was a natural build up of psi in the brain already. I mean...the brain is what wealds the psi in the first place.

Causing harm to the brain like this also confuses me because of "pretending". You guys are probably familiar w/ the concept but not the term. A friend and I coined the term for someone who repeats something in their head so many times that they begin to believe the lie. (To explain the term quickly: So let's say you want to be able to jump higher. You repeat in your head "I can jump five feet" and your body and mind condition themselves to achieve the task and then after some time (depending on the thing you're pretending) it becomes reality. )

Going along with pretending there are probably times where you could totally screw up your mind, but if you're pretending something like "I can levitate the toothpick" its just like practicing normal psi techniques.
Do you see what I'm getting at? I'm not saying that that's the answer, but I'm just trying to play devil's advocate.

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And that's where this conversation ended. Well not exactly but the posts after weren't really worth posting because they really didn't add much weight to the discussion.

Ghosts

I was on the PsiPogBB.net forum and this was the convo on ghosts.

First post by me: This is another sort of random idea I came up with.......somehow......
So, I was watching a documentary on ghosts the other day and it just sorta hit me. Could that person right before he/she died had a OBE and then couldn't get back because...their body is dead?
I guess what I'm suggesting, a ghost could be an oob with no body to go to.

Any takers? Critics?

MikeV:Yes, i completly agree with this thoery. its the one that makes the most sense, when you have an OBE your astral body is supposed to be connected to your pyshical body by a sliver aumbilical type cord, this cord is what pulls you back into your body, when you die i think that the silver cord is severed and your astral body is free to roam the plains.

There is also a reference in the a big book (you know the one, im not allowed to say it, it begins with a B ) about the silver cord being severed and the spirit returning to god, not that that quote has any meaning here

(sorry for the religious stuff i know its not allowed but hey )

Lucidess:It makes every ghost story and spirits make alot more sense if I think about this. I'm was never scared of ghost and stuff, but now that i understand them, I kinda feel bad for them.

Baka:Feel bad? Why? Their body is dead, they have nothing left to feel with, they even don't have personalities. They are like robots with endless power, free to just fly around aimlessly.

How do i know this? I've tried to communicate to a "ghost" telepathically.

Bob_stew:This is kinda against the rules, y'know. Talk about death and ghosts and stuff..

To answer your question, memory is proved to be stored in the brain. Physically. And your memory is available to you when you are out of body. So, I don't think an 'OOB body' could exist without a physical body.

I think it's merely some kind of remote presence, except from the approachment angle.. Which makes it *seem* totally different, cause we go about it differently. I can't really be sure, since I've never had an OOBE/RP. This is just what I believe from my current sense of logic.

me freakinrican626: sorry. I didn't mean to break the rules. It was just something that I was thinking about and I really wanted to what other people thought.

The theory sort of makes sense, but when you bring up the memory thing it makes me do a double take. I always thought that ghosts (or at least most) didn't know they were dead. I know of some instances where they have felt emotions; jealousy, hate, anger. I know that some think that ghosts are just emotional memories left by a living person and I bet that it's true for certain cases (i wouldnt say for all though).

I've never had an OBE, so I can't really give my two sense in this whole debate. But i just thought this was sort of food for thought.


pyroman098:ghosts are nothing more than dead people that have no where to go..thats what i think...


freakinrican626:yes dead people...but how can someone be dead, walk and move, w/out a physical body?

That's the real question.

You can think whatever you want and I'm not gonna try and convince you of anything. I highly doubt we'll actually figure out the answer, but I'm just saying, to me, that's what seems to be the underlying question.


pyroman098:well how can we do that? simple they came out of body because their body died......


balmung205: What I think is that "ghosts" can move in other dimensions than ours, cause they doesn't have a physical existence. Also a ghost can "enter" in our dimension (by accident or because they want) but they can't make a revelation in the physical world cause they aren't physical but they can disturb the physical world the same as we can dysturb the psionic world more or less
Or ghosts can be an entity that has nothing to do with dead people, they are a creature that lives in our world and thats all.


freakinrican626:

(quote) pyroman098 wrote:

well how can we do that? simple they came out of body because their body died......

hmmm...
I see what you're saying, but I've got a feeling its not that simple. I don't think you can apply that to every single circumstance.


and balmung. when you talked about disturbing our physical world, what about poltergeist? I always considered ghost and poltergeist under the same supernatural category. but i don't know too much about poltergeists, so for all i know they actually could be two different things. is this true or am i just going in the wrong direction?


RaiN11:

(quote) Bob_stew wrote:

This is kinda against the rules, y'know. Talk about death and ghosts and stuff.. To answer your question, memory is proved to be stored in the brain. Physically. And your memory is available to you when you are out of body. So, I don't think an 'OOB body' could exist without a physical body. I think it's merely some kind of remote presence, except from the approachment angle.. Which makes it *seem* totally different, cause we go about it differently. I can't really be sure, since I've never had an OOBE/RP. This is just what I believe from my current sense of logic.

What you say about the brain is true. But would you not agree that the "astral self" if you will, is something that is not entirely understood as to what it is capable of? We do not know a great amount about this form, I think I'll keep an open mind to this topic until I know the facts which wont happen till I’m dead hahah .


Apollo:

(quote) pyroman098 wrote:

ghosts are nothing more than dead people that have no where to go..thats what i think...

Might i suggest to you people that the general rule for psipog is for no talk about suggesting what happens after death (hence no religion, etc). Please refrain from talking about after death.


Lucidess:My beliefs, as far as i've developed.. theres the Physical plane, and then the Astral plane. Just to let others know, i'm as athiest as possible XD, if there was any terms that i say, i just picked them up for defining what i have to say, and not direct it to any sort of religion, because i hate religion.

For me to understand them (and not freak out if i see a ghost), I am convinced that they are just Astral without the physical.


freakinrican626:

(quote) RaiN11 wrote:

(quote) Bob_stew wrote: This is kinda against the rules, y'know. Talk about death and ghosts and stuff.. To answer your question, memory is proved to be stored in the brain. Physically. And your memory is available to you when you are out of body. So, I don't think an 'OOB body' could exist without a physical body. I think it's merely some kind of remote presence, except from the approachment angle.. Which makes it *seem* totally different, cause we go about it differently. I can't really be sure, since I've never had an OOBE/RP. This is just what I believe from my current sense of logic. What you say about the brain is true. But would you not agree that the "astral self" if you will, is something that is not entirely understood as to what it is capable of? We do not know a great amount about this form, I think I'll keep an open mind to this topic until I know the facts which wont happen till I’m dead hahah .

ya i agree w/ you there. this topic is too unpredictable and i haven't come up w/ some logical way to test and/or prove any theories.
i have to say its an interesting topic to discuss


Kwanza:I like this theory a lot, and is definetly valid.

I'm unsure of the "Astral Plain", but from what it sounds, it's similar to my "Two Dimensions" theory.


balmung205:

(quote) freakinrican626 wrote:

and balmung. when you talked about disturbing our physical world, what about poltergeist? I always considered ghost and poltergeist under the same supernatural category. but i don't know too much about poltergeists, so for all i know they actually could be two different things. is this true or am i just going in the wrong direction?

Ghosts manifestations can be clasified in two different ways:
1st Visual manifestations:When you can see a ghost or ghostly things. But they doesn't make anykind of physical thing.
2nd Poltergeists: In poltergeists we can't see the ghost. we only can see things moving around the house without any explanation. They say that poltergeists are produced by a ghost but to move things ghosts need a physical "allie" normally a teenager that is who really moves the thing with unconscious powered tk. At least this is what I deducted from my studies.

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And that's where the discussion ended. I decided it would just be easier to copy and paste my ideas than typing them all over again, but then I figured you guys would probably appreciate knowing how the discussion developed so I added what others said.

Hey

Well this is definitely new for me. I usually don't do blogs, but I know there's a lot I should write down. So hopefully this will motivate me to keep myself updated. I don't know about you, but I'll come up w/ a good idea and if I don't write it down it's lost forever.
So here goes!!!
Please guys feel free to comment. I like to chat and discuss.